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[saxnix]

Don't worry, I found it.

[saxnix]

Thanks Bryce, I changed the value to 1000 and the guide now appers correctly.

[Bryce]

No worries Greg

"C:\Program Files\epgStream.net\Common\Tools\xmltvRules.config"
This is the file to edit

It should be this one  xmltvRules Set at 1000.zip   11.98K   12 downloads
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"C:\Program Files\epgStream.net\Common\Tools\xmltvAlter.exe.config"
Do not edit this file

If it gets to difficult.
I will zip different rules for you to try with different time zone settings.
You can then test them in xmltv XMLTV EPG Veiwer to see which one is the correct time setting for your programs.
If you have more trouble with the editing let me know and I willl post those rules.

[Bryce]

Thanks Bryce, I changed the value to 1000 and the guide now appers correctly.

Good one

Question/clarification of how this works - So EIT guide data is usually (say in TV Pack) downloaded via the stream while watching a channel. Your workaround actually uses the Sydney/Brisbane eit application to get the data?

Think of Bris/Syd eit as being a batch file. see pic

If so, how accurate/often updated by the networks is the info?

In sydney the info is reasonably good. Although the text content is woeful hence the xmlAlter rules.
ABC has the best text content. It would be nice if the other stations follow their trend.
I'm really not sure how often through the week they actually update their system.
Any information missing further in the guide is usually updated before the date of veiwing.
In general you get up to a week of guide.
Channel 2 gives one to three days of guide. It might be different in other states.

Should I schedule Brisbane eit to run once a week, every couple of days, once a day, or 3 or 4 times a day?

When ever I'm on the computer I do a manual hit.
If you do a task schedule. Once a day is sufficient.
Just remember that if Bris eit trys to grab the guide when there is a recording happening
there will be a conflict. Two tasks trying to use the one card.
I don't know if this is also true when a system has more than one card on the system. I only have one card on my system.

Bryce

[saxnix]

So one last enquiry.....what is the verdict on how often to run your app? How many times per day is it automatically scheduled to run (it did it automatically at 9am)?

[saxnix]

It should be this one [ATTACH]2795[/ATTACH]
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I have downloaded for when I need to go through the process in the future (always seem to have to re-install every now and then )
Thanks again for this workaround. It will be nice to have correct data for Ch 9.

[Innie808]

Kudos to Bryce,

These are very fool proof instructions if you read carefully and follow exactly. I managed to get my guide back up and running with EIT within 20 minutes.

Just one question. How accurate is this guide data compared to Oztivo?

[Bryce]

I find the eit description adequate for my purposes. Oztivo definitely place more content in their descriptive text.
 eit text.zip   206.41K   18 downloads View using MS Word

[saxnix]

I don't know if this is something that happens with all eit stuff, or something restricted to this app, but I thought I would ask. I noticed a couple of strange things via the eit and was wondering if anyone else noticed these as well.

• If I set something to record that isn't a series, once the eit updates, it wipes the recording. Eg, The other day I had chosen to record King Kong last night, but then yesterday I noticed that it wasn't set to record. This has happened with a couple of things.
  
  
• When using ICE guide, Monster Garage (and the other HD programming on CH 10) had their own title. With the eit they are displayed as "HD Documentry" and then have the shows name in the desciption. Because of this I record the series (and record all of these documentaries). The stange thing is that if I then go and select "Do not record", for a show I am not interested in, when the eit updates it resets it to record.

Just interested to see if anyone else sees this.

[Bryce]

If I set something to record that isn't a series, once the eit updates, it wipes the recording. Eg, The other day I had chosen to record King Kong last night, but then yesterday I noticed that it wasn't set to record. This has happened with a couple of things.

Hi Greg
I haven’t experienced that issue on my own system.
I tried to replicate the problem by setting the same scenario as explained in your question. I chose a program that wasn't a series and did an update.
I went back into the guide and found the recording was still OK.
I haven't seen this problem before. I'm wondering if it could be a setting in the media center settings. Have a look through the settings listed here. And see if they match up with the settings on your system

These are the current settings on my system. See if they match with yours.
Recording settings.
Settings / TV/ Recorder/ recordind Defaults
Keep: Until space needed
Start when possible: 4 minutes before
Stop when possible 4 minutes after
Preferred audio Language: English
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Series only recordings
Channels: Channnels only.
Airtime: Anytime
Keep up to: As many as possible.
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When using ICE guide, Monster Garage (and the other HD programming on CH 10) had their own title. With the eit they are displayed as "HD Documentry" and then have the shows name in the desciption. Because of this I record the series (and record all of these documentaries). The stange thing is that if I then go and select "Do not record", for a show I am not interested in, when the eit updates it resets it to record.

Just interested to see if anyone else sees this.

I can only suggest ideas to try to rectify the issue. They may work they may not work.
The only thing I can think of doing for the above question, is the following.
Go into Recorded TV / View scheduled / Series / Highlight a program / Right click or push info button on remote / Cancel series/
Remove every thing in the series list
Close media center and reboot.
Then reschedule your programs.
See if those steps help in someway.
Whatever the cause that sounds like an annoying issue.
I hope the steps above help in someway.

Bryce

[saxnix]

Hi Bryce,

My Record Settings are as per what you have, with the exception of the pre (2 mins) and post (3 mins) padding.

I have just gone through and done a clean out of the sereis (not a bad thing to do as there were 125 and many multiples of the same show). I will restart now and let you know tomorrow if this changes anything.
Greg

[saxnix]

Sorry, I just realised that I hand't come back. All is working well now and has been since I installed. Some of the series don't show as series (and need to be set to record each week/showing), but for the most part this has been an excellent workaround.

Thanks again for you help with this.

OT. Does anyone know if Windows 7 is able to pull the EIT info correctly - out of the box?

[saxnix]

With SBS eit now available, when installing, do you still need to do some stuff with epgstream, or was that only to get the sbs listings? Can you just simply install sydney eit to get it running now?

[ideas_man69]

Firstly I need to obtain accurate information to be able to do that.
I haven't been able to determine if the major citys all use the same frequencies.
It would appear Sydney and Melbourne do. Although I need to get that confirmed.

Hi Bryce,

Great work on this EIT stuff. I've been using the same setup since i followed your old guide.. Just thought i'd have a look and see what updates you have done. I downloaded and followed all the info in the first post but couldn't transform it to work in Melbourne as you are now using an .EXE file rather than a .BAT file.

Anyway, just wondering if you could please make a Melbourne version using the SBS eit data (now that they are transmitting it )?

Attached is the scanchannels bda log.

Thanks again mate!

Attached Files

•  ScanChannelsBDA.zip   3.41K   11 downloads

[Bryce]

Apologies to saxnix and ideas_man69 for my late reply.

Sanix

With SBS eit now available, when installing, do you still need to do some stuff with epgstream, or was that only to get the sbs listings? Can you just simply install sydney eit to get it running now?

The file you currently have is only set up for ABC, 7, 9, 10 not SBS.
I would need to compile a new Brisbane eit file with the SBS settings.
If you use the batch file posted below then you can get SBS but you also have to make adjustments to the xmltv rules and program paths suited to the batch file.

ideas_man69

Anyway, just wondering if you could please make a Melbourne version using the SBS eit data (now that they are transmitting it )?

If I had the time I would make you and sanix a file to suit your location. (Melbourne, Brisbane.) But at the moment it's not possible due to work commitment.

What I can offer is to add the workings of the file to this thread. In batch file format.
All you would need to do is change the frequency settings if they are different to the one's you use in your area.
And set the correct paths in your computer to get the batch file to work.
Also you would need to adjust the xmltvDownload and wmcGuideServiceProxy configuration settings.
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This is the Program Files path for the batch file.
Place the batch file in the following location.
"C:\Program Files\Eit\Sydney.bat" ------- make a shortcut to the desktop and give administrative rights.
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These are the ProgramData paths for the batch file.
"C:\ProgramData\Eit\Channel directory"
"C:\ProgramData\Eit\Dummy listing files" ----> Sydney only
"C:\ProgramData\Eit\Listings"
"C:\ProgramData\Eit\Raw Files"
"C:\ProgramData\Eit\Listings.xml"

Also I can add the rules file so you can edit and adjust for your area as well.


Main batch file. Omit the blue text if not in Sydney.

@echo off
cls
color 17
cd\
C:
del /Q "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Raw Files\*.xml"
cls
cd\
[COLOR=blue]C:[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]timeout /T 2 > nul[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]cd "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Dummy listing files\%1"[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]copy /y "*.xml" "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Raw Files\"[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]cls[/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]cd\[/COLOR]
C:
cd "C:\Program Files\EPGScan"
"C:\Program Files\EPGScan\EPGScan.exe" -f 571500 -b 7 -o "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Raw Files\SBS.xml" -t 0
"C:\Program Files\EPGScan\EPGScan.exe" -f 226500 -b 7 -o "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Raw Files\ABC.xml" -t 0 
"C:\Program Files\EPGScan\EPGScan.exe" -f 177500 -b 7 -o "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Raw Files\Seven.xml" -t 0
"C:\Program Files\EPGScan\EPGScan.exe" -f 191625 -b 7 -o "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Raw Files\Nine.xml" -t 0 
"C:\Program Files\EPGScan\EPGScan.exe" -f 219500 -b 7 -o "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Raw Files\Ten.xml" -t 0
timeout /T 4 > nul
cls
cd\
C:
"C:\Program Files\epgStream.net\xmltvDownload\xmltvDownload.exe"
cls
cd\
C:
cd "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Raw Files"
Replace "%1C:\ProgramData\Eit\Raw Files\*.xml" "%2C:\ProgramData\Eit\Listings" /A
Replace "%1C:\ProgramData\Eit\Raw Files\*.xml" "%2C:\ProgramData\Eit\Listings" /u
cls
cd\
C:
"C:\Program Files\epgStream.net\Common\Tools\xmltvMerge.exe" "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Listings\FTA Digital 44.xml" "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Listings\D44-ACC.xml" "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Listings\Digital 44 NSW.xml" "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Listings\Digital 44 Expo.xml" "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Listings\SBS.xml" "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Listings\ABC.xml" "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Listings\Seven.xml" "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Listings\Nine.xml" "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Listings\Ten.xml" "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Listings\xmltv.xml" /output:"C:\ProgramData\Eit\Listings\ListingsRaw.xml"
timeout /T 4 > nul
cls
cd\
C:
cd "C:\Program Files\epgStream.net\Common\Tools"
xmltvAlter "xmltvRules.config" "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Listings\ListingsRaw.xml" "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Listings\Listings.xml"
timeout /T 4 > nul
cls
cd\
C:
cd "C:\ProgramData\Eit\Listings"
Replace "%1C:\ProgramData\Eit\Listings\Listings.xml" "%2C:\ProgramData\Eit" /A
Replace "%1C:\ProgramData\Eit\Listings\Listings.xml" "%2C:\ProgramData\Eit" /u
cls
cd\
C:
REG.exe DELETE "HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Media Center\Service\EPG" /v dllasttime /f
timeout /T 5 > nul
%SystemRoot%\eHome\mcupdate.exe
exit

Current  xmltvRules.zip   13.86K   25 downloads Change the Sydney channel Id's to Melbourne / Brisbane Id's


The file in the following link is the latest set up file for Sydney.
Install after a complete install of XMLTV Guide Pack.
Disregard the instructions earlier in this thread.
It will set all configuration settings automatically.


It will only work in Sydney but if installed in other states of oz you can then replace the Sydney.exe file with the batch file above. you will only need to change the Id settings in the xmltv rules config file.

Download ---> Sydney eit